how does one interview an artist who refuses to speak?

last night, over dinner, with a straight face and before going out dancing, bili bidjoka said to me, “i see myself as a 19th century parisian artist … ” to which, of course, there is no measured retort possible.
it was like the day when someone asked louis moholo, “what are you listening to now?”, referring to music on disc in
the cd player, louis replied “i am listening to you man!”.

we recorded that conversation … and put it here for you